Comments on: The Delta Zeta – DePauw saga, episode III: The empire strikes back http://castingoutnines.wordpress.com/2007/03/28/the-delta-zeta-depauw-saga-episode-iii-the-empire-strikes-back/ education | teaching | math | technology Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:57:58 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: David Glass http://castingoutnines.wordpress.com/2007/03/28/the-delta-zeta-depauw-saga-episode-iii-the-empire-strikes-back/#comment-6196 David Glass Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:22:40 +0000 http://castingoutnines.wordpress.com/2007/03/28/the-delta-zeta-depauw-saga-episode-iii-the-empire-strikes-back/#comment-6196 DePauw would be very wise to take this to court. The DZ National organization has acted with complete disregard to the health of its members. Kicking women out of the sorority had everything to do with looks, and nothing to do with brains. If the sorority didn't want smart and independent women in its local chapters ....fine. Dont accept them in the first place. Especially do not kick them out right before finals with the lame excuse they were not committed. It is a bald faced lie. They were not blond, they were not thin, they were not wearing short skirts and going out to party with the Frats, and finally they weren't sexy enough. All this would become completely apparent in a trial. The suit even refers to an incident during recruitment which proves the DePauw defense. DePauw has no responsibility to the National DZ organization, but does have great responsibility for its students...and has acted completely appropriately. The first contract which has been violated is the one between the DePauw women of the local DZ chapter and the National DZ organization. Even if these women wanted to be part of a sorority after this experience, they can never be, the National took them when it suited purpose, and abandoned and trashed them when it did not. Shame on National DZ. If I were the rest of the "greek" system..I would be looking at controlling the reprehensible behavior of National DZ and putting them out of their misery by denouncing them. DePauw would be very wise to take this to court.
The DZ National organization has acted with complete disregard to the health of its members. Kicking women out of the sorority had everything to do with looks, and nothing to do with brains. If the sorority didn’t want smart and independent women in its local chapters ….fine. Dont accept them in the first place. Especially do not kick them out right before finals with the lame excuse they were not committed. It is a bald faced lie. They were not blond, they were not thin, they were not wearing short skirts and going out to party with the Frats, and finally they weren’t sexy enough. All this would become completely apparent in a trial. The suit even refers to an incident during recruitment which proves the DePauw defense. DePauw has no responsibility to the National DZ organization, but does have great responsibility for its students…and has acted completely appropriately.
The first contract which has been violated is the one between the DePauw women of the local DZ chapter and the National DZ organization. Even if these women wanted to be part of a sorority after this experience, they can never be, the National took them when it suited purpose, and abandoned and trashed them when it did not. Shame on National DZ. If I were the rest of the “greek” system..I would be looking at controlling the reprehensible behavior of National DZ and putting them out of their misery by denouncing them.

]]> By: rightwingprof http://castingoutnines.wordpress.com/2007/03/28/the-delta-zeta-depauw-saga-episode-iii-the-empire-strikes-back/#comment-6195 rightwingprof Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:49:41 +0000 http://castingoutnines.wordpress.com/2007/03/28/the-delta-zeta-depauw-saga-episode-iii-the-empire-strikes-back/#comment-6195 I fail to see what all the fuss is about. The Greeks discriminate. So? So does the National Honor Society. The Greeks discriminate on the bases of appearance? Welcome to the real world. The Greeks here raise hundreds of thousands of dollars every year for charity--dollars that the university would never think of donating, because of course feel good programs like yet one more diversity police force or a new deanship for disadvantaged studies is so much more important than actually doing something to help others. That's what Greeks do for the university. The PC squad may not like the Greek system or priorities, but that's really their problem. To say the university is being hypocritical here is understating the issue. I fail to see what all the fuss is about. The Greeks discriminate. So? So does the National Honor Society. The Greeks discriminate on the bases of appearance? Welcome to the real world.

The Greeks here raise hundreds of thousands of dollars every year for charity–dollars that the university would never think of donating, because of course feel good programs like yet one more diversity police force or a new deanship for disadvantaged studies is so much more important than actually doing something to help others. That’s what Greeks do for the university. The PC squad may not like the Greek system or priorities, but that’s really their problem.

To say the university is being hypocritical here is understating the issue.

]]> By: Anne Fernald http://castingoutnines.wordpress.com/2007/03/28/the-delta-zeta-depauw-saga-episode-iii-the-empire-strikes-back/#comment-6194 Anne Fernald Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:30:34 +0000 http://castingoutnines.wordpress.com/2007/03/28/the-delta-zeta-depauw-saga-episode-iii-the-empire-strikes-back/#comment-6194 Thanks for the link & your comments, Robert. I think your question--what good does the university derive from the Greek system--is the right one. The social goods that students derive (perhaps) and perceive (more likely) could be obtained in other ways without all that's ugly and pernicious in the Greek system. I'm hoping that DZ's lawsuit is the last gasp for them--I saw absolutely nothing in the behavior of the women from national to make me feel anything but contempt. (Sorry about the double negative...)--Anne Thanks for the link & your comments, Robert. I think your question–what good does the university derive from the Greek system–is the right one. The social goods that students derive (perhaps) and perceive (more likely) could be obtained in other ways without all that’s ugly and pernicious in the Greek system. I’m hoping that DZ’s lawsuit is the last gasp for them–I saw absolutely nothing in the behavior of the women from national to make me feel anything but contempt.

(Sorry about the double negative…)–Anne

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